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The State Of Bonefish and Tarpon

Saturday, April 17th, 2010

I asked Dr. Aaron Adams a few questions about the state of bonefish, tarpon, and permit, particularly in Florida after this brutal winter. I also asked him about the mission of the Bonefish and Tarpon Trust. Here’s what he had to say.

FJ: Could you kind of summarize what the Bonefish and Tarpon Trust is all about? If I’m giving money, where is it going?

AA: Bonefish & Tarpon Trust was founded as Bonefish & Tarpon Unlimited in 1998, by a group of concerned, anglers, guides, and scientists. They were concerned about the apparent decline of bonefish and changes in behavior of tarpon in the Keys, and wanted to do something to improve the fisheries. They quickly learned that very little was known about these species, so all threw money in to support some research to figure out enough about the species to improve the fisheries. That initial group has matured into the present day BTT.

BTT’s mission is to support research toward conservation and improvement of bonefish, tarpon, and permit fisheries. BTT currently supports projects in Florida, The Bahamas, and Caribbean.  The model we follow is to raise funds from a variety of sources (memberships, individual and corporate donations,  grants), and to use these funds to support research, conservation, and education. Approximately 85% of what BTT takes in goes back out to these projects.

BTT uses a set of Research Frameworks to guide research and conservation funding. The frameworks first show the status of knowledge for each species. This is based on peer-reviewed scientific research. Based on the status of knowledge, conservation need, and potential or current threats, we assign a Priority level to each item. We then use these Priority levels to guide funding. You can see the Research Frameworks here: http://www.tarbone.org/research-programs/research-frameworks.html. We review the frameworks once a year and revise as needed. The frameworks not only guide immediate funding allocations, but also allow us to plan longer term strategies.

All that to say – the funds are used very efficiently, and via a formal structure that ensures funds are put to the best use toward conservation of these fisheries. And it’s also important to note that this is all with the goal of ensuring bonefish, tarpon, and permit fisheries are healthy for now and for future generations.

FJ: In light of the recent devastating weather patterns in Florida, it seems like the BTT’s mission is more important than ever. We’ve heard about the toll taken on snook, but is there any data or estimates on what happened to bonefish, tarpon and permit?

AA: I can say with certainty that permit were not heavily impacted. I am not aware of any accounts of dead permit in the Keys, and there were only a couple reports of dead permit from farther north. In fact, reports from small plane pilots a couple weeks after the weather began to warm spoke of large schools of large permit offshore, and moving back into the Keys. So it’s quite possible that most permit headed to offshore waters during the cold snap.

Similarly, there were only a few reports of dead adult tarpon. The best guess is that the adult tarpon were either in winter grounds in other locations, or moved offshore when the cold weather hit. Most reports of tarpon mortalities were of juveniles 1 to 3 years old. Initial reports from biologists working on identification of juvenile tarpon habitats, and from guides in the Everglades, were of high numbers of dead juvenile tarpon.  We’ll have a better idea of just how badly these small tarpon were hit as the weather warms and those remaining juveniles return to normal behaviors. Since it takes so long for tarpon to reach maturity (approximately 8 – 10 years, on average), we won’t see any potential effects of the loss of juvenile tarpon for 5 to 10 years.

In the upper keys, there were many reports of dead bonefish. From the data collected by biologists at the University of Miami, most of these bonefish were small. The leading theory is that larger bonefish were able to move offshore into deeper, warmer water. Many, if not the majority, of the dead bonefish were found on the Florida Bay side of the Keys – shallow water that is far from deeper water refuge.

The key question, though, is what portion of the populations were affected by the cold-induced mortalities? If, for example, only 3% of the population died, then no big deal. If, however, 50% of a population died, then there is a problem. The challenge here is that we don’t have a real stock assessment for tarpon or bonefish, so we don’t know what the population sizes are, which makes it difficult to impossible to estimate the proportion of the population that perished in January. Again, we’ll be able to develop a better picture of the cold-kill’s impacts as summer progresses.

FJ:  This isn’t the first cold snap to hit Florida, and fish populations have historically recovered. What is different this time? What are some of the obstacles in recovery today?

AA: You are correct, there have been numerous extreme cold events in Florida in the past, and these have also caused large mortalities of fishes. Remember – Florida is at the northern edge of the geographic range for tropical species like bonefish, tarpon, coral reef fishes, etc, and these species are going to be impacted any time there is a cold event. There are two major differences between now and cold kill events in the past, with the degree of difference greater when compared to more distant events. The fish have been through this before, and have always recovered. But now there is less habitat (healthy or otherwise) and more people fishing, both of which impede the ability of the fish populations to recover. This means that anglers have to be especially diligent about being responsible anglers. And I think this is a good call to action for anglers to become involved in habitat protection and habitat restoration – without healthy habitats there can’t be healthy fisheries, and this is especially true when dealing with events like cold snaps (or hurricanes).

FJ: As far as habitat loss and encroachment, how significant is that in placing stress on the species, and how much will that hamper population recovery?

AA: To a great extent, the population size and health of our gamefish is limited by the amount of available healthy habitats. So regardless of what management strategies are enacted, populations can really only max out at what the habitats can support. This becomes especially apparent during times of stress – like the loss of fish from a cold kill or hurricane. As habitats are lost, the resilience of the coastal environment and fish populations to any kind of stress is compromised.

FJ: Has the Everglades restoration project lived up to its promises? How has the recession affected efforts to reestablish the natural flow of the Glades?

AA: Great question, but one I am not really qualified to answer. It’s an ongoing process, with, as I understand it, a long way to go. One way to look at the Everglades, or any other restoration or habitat protection, is that before we altered the habitat, the system was functioning well. One way to look at this is as we were just hired as managers of an assembly plant that has been producing a great product. All we really need to do is sit back and let the plant and its workers continue doing what they do. But we’ve changed some of the things at the plant, and now the product coming out is not as good or consistent as it once was. So in a sense, restoration is a way to try to get the assembly plant back to its old, productive ways.

FJ: The BTT has helped sponsor studies by Dr. Jerald Ault of the University of Miami and the life cycles of tarpon and bonefish and the economic impact of these fish. Are there things in his studies that have surprised you? Things you’ve learned about tarpon and bonefish that change the way you think of them?

AA: Every study has provided surprises. Remember, when BTT started (as BTU) there was not much information available on bonefish, tarpon, or permit. Although we’ve made great progress since 1998, there is still a lot that we don’t know.  In Jerry’s studies of tarpon migrations, for example, the conventional wisdom was that they didn’t move far, and their management was a state/local issue. The data have revealed that long-distance migrations are common, and support the need for regional conservation efforts. Similarly, the extent of movements by bonefish was a surprise – the length of the Keys, for example –  but until recently we didn’t know if that occurred elsewhere. A study in Andros, Bahamas that BTT helped fund found that bonefish migrated approximately 140 miles roundtrip for spawning. This is all new information, and has real applications to conservation.  It was also surprising to us to find that bonefish grow at different lengths in the Keys than they do in the Caribbean: a 23” bonefish in the Keys is approximately 6 years old, but is 16 years old in the Caribbean.

We’ve recently been helping to fund work on the economic value of these fisheries, and although not surprising, it has been amazing to see the numbers. For example, bonefishing tourism in The Bahamas was worth $141 million dollars in 2009. And recreational fishing (including tarpon and bonefish) in Everglades National Park is worth $991 million per year. With the economic importance of these fisheries, we are hopeful that habitat protection, fisheries conservation will become a higher priority so that they remain healthy into the future.

FJ: As anglers, how should we approach our pursuit of these fish in light of the historical and recent stresses that have been placed upon them?

AA: That’s a short question with a potentially long answer, but I’ll try to keep it to some main points.

- Treat the habitats well. Don’t damage grass beds with your boat propeller by running too shallow. Don’t damage mangroves, marshes, reefs, etc.

- Use barbless hooks, and if you fish with plugs or other lures with multiple hooks, replace the treble hooks with single hooks. This reduces handling time when releasing the fish.

-  Practice catch and release as a general rule, and only keep fish to eat on occasion.

-  Follow good practices of catch and release to ensure the fish lives to be caught another day.  Good information on catch and release can be found at www.tarbone.orgwww.fishermanscoast.com, and www.tribalbonefish.com.

- Lures or flies are typically better than bait in regard to fish swallowing the hook. If you do use bait, use a circle hook.

For some more ideas on responsible fishing, check out http://tribalbonefish.com

FJ: What’s the single most important thing an angler can do to help these fish?

AA: Get involved in conservation. Gone are the days when we could go fishing, have a good time, and go home and forget about it until the next trip. Recreational anglers are the primary users of coastal habitats, and major beneficiaries of what these habitats provide, so it is essential that we are the strongest stewards as well. Join a fisheries conservation group that is focused on making sure the fisheries remain healthy for the long term.

Habitats continue to be lost – anglers are losing their fisheries as these habitats disappear.  Anglers need to get involved to stop this. Information is lacking on many recreational fisheries, especially for species like bonefish, tarpon, and permit which have not historically had a commercial fishery. The way that fisheries research and management is conducted has to be changed to accommodate these fisheries – and anglers are the most appropriate group to push for these changes.

Recreational anglers have to re-focus on being responsible in their actions. We’re starting to see too much selfish, short-term gain with long-term loss behavior by recreational anglers on the water.  Poaching seems to be more prevalent, herding redfish with airboats, running flats shallow enough for fish to tail, poor handling practices of fish that are eventually released, continued harvest of fish from populations that are in decline. These are just a few of the issues that we, as recreational anglers, must fix and fix immediately. It will be awfully tough to have a respected voice at the resource management table if we treat our own resources poorly.

LENSE MAN: Corey Kruitbosch Talks Photography

Thursday, June 18th, 2009

Rewards, originally uploaded by cor23.*

His name and images, like one of our favorites above, are showing up everywhere in the fly fishing industry. Based out of Ogden, Utah, Corey Kruitbosch (here’s his blog) actually has a day job in the gaming industry but still gets it done on the water with a rod and a lens. Somewhere between his job and his passion he found the time to answer a few questions about photography.

All the sudden your photography is showing up everywhere; The Drake, This Is Fly, Catch, Midcurrent. How did you go from working in the gaming industry to getting paid gigs shooting fly fishing pics?

Honestly, I couldn’t really give you a solid answer. I am pretty blown away myself. I feel really lucky that I have been able to get some great encouragement form some fantastic editors. My approach has always been to ask what types of images different editors are looking for. I’d like to think that maybe I am capturing some images that describe the feeling that we all have when we are fishing.

How does working in the gaming industry shape your approach to fishing photography?

I think that working in 3D space, on a daily basis, tends to help me to visualize some of my angles. The one thing that about working in games that has the most influence on me is, the people. Working with large teams to make a product that would be impossible to do alone is truly inspiring . I am constantly surrounded by talented, creative, and artistic people who have a very diverse set of skills that I continually learn from. Artists with with specialties in 3D modeling, animators, concept artists, UI designers, and Art Directors help me to continually evaluate my artistic approach.

A few professional photographers have told me that, outside of accrued technical knowledge, a key aspect of quality shooting is discovering angles. Meaning, finding an angle to shoot from that moves a subject beyond ordinary. Is there one non-technical thing like that you can point to that, creatively, helps you shape your work?

Always looking at others work … I am constantly looking at, and inspired by, the work of other photographers and artists. If I see something in a film or a painting that I like, I then ask myself … “How could that fantastic shot be applied to a fly fishing photo? What is it that makes this so good? What is it that I like about this?”

I also carry a notebook with me, most of the time, to jot down photo ideas or concepts.

How do you work with a subject matter that is a breathing, moving, and not necessarily cooperative living thing?

Sometimes I just don’t get what I’m after. It’s those times when I just put away the camera and fish… Or vise versa, if I’m having a bad day on the river.

When on a shoot, do you work from a checklist of key shots or do you let the action unfold in front of you and work from there?

There are times when I head out with an idea or a concept that I’d like to try, but I rarely have a shot list. I actually enjoy the fact that I am not doing professional photography 100% of the time. I think it helps to keep me shooting the stuff I like and not the stuff that I think I might be able to sell. Hopefully, this will help me to develop a unique style that’s “mine”.

Any favorite shots that you feel best represent who you are?

That is tough … I tend to like the shots that most have to to with the memorable fishing days. The shots that are about good times, friends, and capturing those moments. I keep a ‘favs’ set on flickr, but, if I had to narrow it down to just a couple shots…

One of the first shots I got published. This was the epiphany shot, that really made me think “damn, it could be really fun to take good artistic shots of the fly fishing experience.”

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This shot epitomizes my favorite type of fishing, streamers for big browns.*

Nothing is better than our moments on the river with good friends.

*Photos reposted with permission of the owner, © all rights reserved by Corey Kruitbosch.

Talking Blue Highway

Wednesday, May 27th, 2009

[vimeo http://vimeo.com/4752703]

Alaska’s Lynn Canal is actually a natural waterway, a breathtaking  fjord  that connects Juneau to the outside world. It is also at the epicenter of another Alaskan controversy, centered on the proposed Lynn Canal Highway Project. The plan is to extract 13 million cubic yards of rock from the canal’s eastern shoreline to run a 51 mile highway to the state capital. The road–which would be the only one into Juneau– would cross two river systems, 61 avalanche chutes, and acres of untouched wilderness. Not surprisingly, there is fierce opposition. Stephen Mick, a filmmaker from Austin, Texas, set out to shoot an adventure video with the sunglass maker Costa Del Mar and wound up making a documentary about this story. Here, Mick answers some questions about “Blue Highway,” the finished documentary set to debut next Friday at the Teva Mountain Games.

What prompted you to put together a documentary about this issue?

The film was originally going to be more about a sea kayak adventure retracing the route of John Muir, who many consider to be the father of modern conservation. His Travels In Alaska, and our relationship with the Alaska Mountain Guides led us to choose the Lynn Canal as the piece of his adventure that we would try to re-create. The road issue was certainly something we were familiar with through AMG, but the original plan was for it to be a smaller segment in a larger adventure/fishing film.

As we got closer and closer to the start of our trip, the weather kept getting worse and worse. By the time we got to Juneau, a storm had formed that filled the Gulf of Alaska, but we decided that we’d give it a go anyway and take our chances. Once we got in the boats and reached Berners Bay, it was pretty clear we weren’t going any further. Five-foot seas in a sea kayak just weren’t our idea of a good time. So we loaded up and paddled back to Juneau. This was really when we decided that the road project was a bigger story that needed to be told, and we spent the rest of our time in Alaska trying to meet and talk to as many people as we could to help us tell that story.

In the pre-release information and from the trailer, it appears you go to great lengths to tell both sides of the story. Do you (and your sponsor Costa Del Mar) have a viewpoint on this or are you intent on letting the viewer draw his or her own conclusions?

As a filmmaker, I think it’s hard to keep your personal feelings out of any film. That said, we certainly tried hard to not only bring opinions from both sides of the issue to light, but to allow those on both sides to make the points they felt were important. The arguments on both sides have merit, and I don’t think it serves anyone to create a film that sits so obviously on one side of the fence. Now I have my opinion, and I think people would be surprised to find out what it is and why I believe it. But viewers should always be free to find their own point of view through a film like this. Most importantly, wherever people find themselves on the issue, I hope they’re moved enough to act on those feelings by voicing their support or opposition to the project directly to Alaska’s Governor.

Between this “Road to Nowhere,” the infamous “Bridge to Nowhere” that surfaced in the last presidential race, and the Bristol Bay controversy, Alaska seems to be the national focal point of the conflict between the 20th century notion of progress and the 21st century ethic of preservation and sustainability. What is it about Alaska that draws people to both sides?

The great thing about Alaska is that’s it’s filled with natural beauty and seemingly endless wilderness. This has attracted sportsmen, adventurers and others who want to enjoy that beauty, and in some cases, protect it from any and all development. The great thing about Alaska is that it’s incredibly rich in valuable natural resources. This has always attracted those who are willing to invest their hard work and in some cases vast sums of money, to help remove whatever resources they can benefit from. Gold. Oil. Copper. The question becomes can we reconcile the motivations of both groups?

$400 million, the estimated cost of the project, seems like a lot to pay for a 51 mile road benefiting about 35,000 people–or about half the crowd at a pro football game. Are there valid economic arguments for doing so? Are there ways the money could be better spent?

The economics of life in Alaska’s “southeast” are difficult to say the least. Juneau and the other communities are so isolated, and travel between them is expensive and inconvenient. The ferries of the Alaska Marine Highway connect the communities, but the ferry system is costly to run. Each year the operating costs of the ferry system far outstrip the income, and new ferries can cost hundreds of millions of dollars. These costs fall mostly to the state to cover, a burden some feel could be lessened by building the road. Also, in today’s economy, the road itself could become an industry, with jobs created to build, maintain and repair the road. And when you factor in the idea (whether you believe it or not) that not building the road could result in the capital being moved out of Juneau, the economic issues become complex to say the least.

On the other hand, most of the money used to build the road would come from the federal government, specifically the near-bankrupt Federal Highway Trust Fund. So, even if you believe that the road will cost what some people say it will cost, there’s still the question of who pays for it. It’s not as simple as saying there’s other projects we could better spend the money on, because the money doesn’t really exist.

The debate over the road aside, can you share a little about experiencing the natural beauty of the Lynn Canal from a kayak?

To be honest, Alaska has more natural beauty than I think most people could even imagine. The Lynn Canal is definitely a piece of that beauty that many people get to enjoy from the water, whether in cruise ships, Alaska Marine Highway ferries or in sea kayaks like we were. But what really struck me wasn’t the beauty we found on the water, it was the complete wilderness and isolation we discovered on land and in the air. The terrain in and around Berners Bay is totally unspoiled, and two steps into the woods quickly take you a few notches down the food chain. From a float plane, it hardly seems real. Steep mountainsides that disappear into blue water. Forests in every shade of green. Lakes high above the Lynn Canal full of fish. Seeing the area from the water is spectacular, but I’d hope that anyone who visits the area takes the opportunity to get off the water and into the real wilderness that’s all around.

After talking to people with passionate views on both sides of the issue, do you believe there’s a middle ground?

I hope so. But I have to be realistic. The death of true debate around this issue seems to mirror a similar lack of interest in finding common ground our society faces on many issues. We have voices on either side of any debate arguing and shouting, urging the rest of us to choose sides rather than to come together to talk about our differences. The end result is polarization and paralysis. What people need to remember is that on any issue, there are always those who find themselves somewhere in between, and are willing to listen to logic and reason. Those are the people that need to be more involved in debates like this, and I hope “Blue Highway” brings at least some of them to the table so that their voices can be heard.

Five Questions With the "Rivers of a Lost Coast" Guys

Wednesday, January 7th, 2009

[vimeo http://vimeo.com/2246772]

We here at Fishing Jones are enjoying the maturation of the fly fishing video genre into something beyond the instructional or extreme categories. From Red Gold, to Drift, to the rediscovery of Tarpon, we like where things are going. Add to this our expectations for the upcoming documentary-style movie Rivers of a Lost Coast, which focuses on California’s rich fly fishing history. After viewing the Vimeo trailer and reading the pre-release information on the blog, we decided to ask the filmmakers, Justin Coupe and Palmer Taylor, a few basic questions:

It’s not often we get a fly fishing film that focuses on the past rather than the present. What inspired you to tell this story?

It started when we first started going over to the coast about 7-8 years ago. There was a guy named George Innes form Woodland, CA. who used to tell us stories about Bill Schaadt, Walt Bennett, Jim Golden, Jim Peas and a couple other early fly anglers from the Russian and Gualala Rivers. George himself was a phenomenal angler, tough to impress, secretive and had loads of experience. We could point to any body of water on a map in California and there was about an 85% chance George had fished it. I’m sure that sounds like we’re filling you with B.S., but it’s true. George knew his sh*t. So when George talked about these early pioneers and their incredible casting abilities, their drive, their ingenuity, they were almost immediately elevated to a mythical status.

The other thing about the coast was, that when we first started going over there, everybody was quite a bit older than us. There just weren’t many young anglers taking an interest in the sport (mainly because of its difficulty, its very low returns, a high-bar of entry and the demanding nature). So as we became more and more entranced with the history of California’s coastal fly fishing, we were also always aware that it was a dying entity.

To a certain level, we felt like we were the only people who would have the time, energy, resources and passion to do a project like this. That may or may not be true, but that was the way the way we felt. Because of that there was a small level of obligation we put on ourselves. As filmmakers and fishermen in California, we felt we needed to tell this story before it slipped away and was forgotten.

The film covers a lot of ground on a fly fishing culture that evolved and took place 30, 40, even 50 years ago. How hard was it to unearth this story and put it all together? How long did it take you?

Research took 18 full months. We spent a lot of time in the California Library’s History and Special Collections rooms. We also spent a decent amount of time at the Humboldt State Library and various Historical societies across the state.

We spent a lot of time on the phone. There wasn’t a whole wealth of info online so it wasn’t like writing a term paper. We relied on personal accounts and drove to a lot of houses to meet in person. The most difficult thing about the research was gaining the trust of the older generation.

In California (and we imagine in Washington and Oregon), the serious coastal fly anglers are a little secretive fraternity. They are extremely wary of giving information to anyone. A few people had tried and failed with similar projects in the past and many of the fishermen felt burned or slighted. There are also always a lot of politics when you’re dealing with fisheries and people wanted to make sure we didn’t have any hidden agendas before they started working with us. Longtime coastal fly anglers Dean and Peggy Quaid of Fort Bragg helped vouch that we weren’t bad kids and I think that made a big difference within the spider web.

The hardest part about the actual story was shifting through all the research and making those really tough decisions about who, when and what we were going to focus on.

Every good story features conflict. The trailer and pre-press materials allude to conflict between two icons of this particular fishing scene: Bill Schaadt and Ted Lindner. How serious was this conflict and how prominently does it play out in your film?

When Bill Schaadt died, Ted Lindner asked where his gravestone was so he could go piss on it. There was no love lost between the two. We use their deteriorating relationship as a metaphor for the deteriorating fisheries.

What did these guys, and all of the people mentioned in the film, contribute to modern fly fishing? How did they influence the sport as we know it today?

Most of the innovation in California came out of the Golden Gate Angling and Casting Club in San Francisco. A lot of the stuff that we take for granted today was designed and refined back in the 40s and 50s by the GGACC, Winston, Powell, Sunset Line, Jimmy Green, Pete Schwab, Jim Pray, Myron Gregory, Buddy Tarantino, Phil Mirravelle.

A lot of the innovation in sinking lines, fiberglass one-hand rod distance casting, pram fishing and shooting heads came out of the Bay Area. Jimmy Green, who later in life was associated with the Clearwater and Grande Ronde, was instrumental early on in distance casting innovation.

These guys were to a certain extent the founders of that “push the boundaries” attitude of fly fishing that is really popular today.

The film also carries an environmental message. What can we learn from the film about how to protect our own waters?

The overwhelming message of the film is it happens fast. In Oregon and Washington steelhead and salmon are much more in the public eye, so you have better networks to protect the fish. Fish in California haven’t been in the papers until very very recently. California can still protect its fish and improve the runs, but massive amounts of irreversible damage have already happened down here. That’s the sad truth. California was the guinea pig everybody else should learn from. In Rivers of a Lost Coast we show how the state never really made fisheries a priority and the anglers themselves didn’t organize soon enough to have an impact when it was needed. What Oregon and Washington anglers will learn from Rivers of a Lost Coast is be on-guard and work to protect things when they’re healthy not after they disappear. One day everything seems great and then all of a sudden . . .

INTERVIEW: Tarpon Movie Guy Talks

Thursday, July 24th, 2008

If you’ve gotten your hands on the Tarpon DVD, you’ve come to realize that it’s not really about Harrison, McGuane, and Brautigan so much, but mostly focuses on a bandana wearing dude as he poles the flats in search of poons. And you’ve probably figured out that he’s Guy de la Valdene, one of the film’s co-producers. But you might be asking, who exactly is this guy? Here’s your answer:

Read this great interview with Marshall Cutchin of Midcurrent.

Carp on the Fly: The Interview

Monday, May 12th, 2008

I’ve already declared 2008 the Year of the Carp. One reason for that, besides occasionally obsessing about weird fish, is I’m tired of living vicariously through the exploits of John Montana, who posts all about whacking carp on one of my favorite blogs, Carp on the Fly. He also routinely competes for the Slab of the Month on Moldy Chum. (I think he won the whole year once.) There are several stages to the carp fly fisherman, and since I’m still at the flailing like an idiot stage I figured I’d pick his brain about how to get it done. He was kind enough to answer my questions:

1. What is it about carp that makes a grown man dedicate so much of his free fishing time towards them?

JM: I heard about carp fishing through Andy “AP Emerger, “  a local Portland fly fisherman that had gotten into carp early.  For a long time I tried fishing for them in various sloughs, rivers, and lakes with no success, but I really did want to find out what all the fuss was about.  On a trip to MN to fish with my friend Wendy Berrell of Fishing and Thinking in MN, I caught my first carp on a 6 wt cane rod.  The fish really took me for a ride, and I was even more intrigued.  What actually got me hooked was finding the fish in shallow water feeding like bonefish.  I remember the first time I found a spot with a big flat of 2 ft water and tails breaking the surface all over…I was completely taken in.  I spent the day casting and casting, couldn’t catch a thing.  I actually called in to work the next day and took the day off, went back to the same spot and spent another few hours casting at tailing carp until I figured it out.  Once it clicked, most other types of fishing were over for me.  I really enjoy the challenge and thrill of stalking big fish in shallow water.  I love the visual aspect of carp fishing, where often the take is so subtle you have to watch for gills flaring or small head movement in order to know when to set the hook.  Combine those exciting, shallow water visual candy moments with the sheer power and force of a hooked carp and you’ll quickly forget about nymphing for trout, or standing in a river blindly swinging and hoping a steelhead hooks itself.

2. I see carp swimming all the time but they seem utterly uninterested. What kind of conditions are ideal for pursuing carp on fly?

JM: This was the biggest challenge when I started carp fishing.  I asked everyone I saw if they had seen carp, and most people could tell me about places where they had seen the fish, but the fact is that finding carp is easy.  Finding feeding carp is a bit tougher.  Unlike most fish like trout or steelhead, you really can’t “entice” a carp to eat.  They are so efficient, that they really only eat when they want to.  Ideal places for a fly rod carper are shallow, warm water.  I like to look for small gravel or cobble for the bottom structure, and if I can find cobble adjacent to deep water, I know I’ll find some larger fish.  Warm mud bays always hold feeding fish, but can be less fun to wade.  The depth and bottom structure is really the key, as carp can be found in ponds, lakes, rivers, sloughs…pretty much anything that holds water can hold carp.  The key is finding those shallow flat like areas in nearby water bodies, you’ll find the fish.  Another great tip that my friend Matt pointed out the other day is to do your scouting during the spawn.  Spawning carp are easy to see, and you’ll know right away if the fish are around.

3. Where are you most likely to find carp willing to eat?

JM: Carp can and do eat just about anything, so you can find feeding carp anyplace.  I’ve seen carp chase crayfish and baitfish, seen them dig around for nymphs, and cloop cottonwood seeds off of the surface.  The key for fly fishing is to find them in shallow where you can see them.  When you do find carp, I focus on three “types” of fish.  My favorite target for flies are the carp I call “slow cruisers.”  These fish are moving slowly along near the bottom, usually at a slight angle with their head down, and casting from side to side in a zig zag pattern.  They are clearly on the prowl and respond extremely well to flies.  My second favorite target is tailing carp.  Tailing care are usually at a 45 degree or vertical angle, sometimes with their tails breaking the surface.  A seriously tailing fish will be digging up a mud cloud and getting down to eating in a serious way.  Tailing carp will take a fly easily, but detecting the strike can be tough.  Their heads are often obscured by a silt cloud, so the visual cues are usually limited to a the tail speeding up, the carp changing positions suddenly, or the fisherman’s sixth sense.  One tip for tailing fish, put the fly slightly to the side rather than right on their nose.  You can often see them dart their head left or right and use that as the cue to set the hook.  My third favorite target is clooping fish.  These fish are eating on the surface and would be my favorite type (who doesn’t like to catch big fish on the surface?) but in general it takes quit a bit of food to get them to the surface.  I’ve seen carp feeding on mats of cottonwood seeds, and had no chance of getting them to eat a natural. 

4. Is it all sight fishing or is it possible to connect with carp while blind casting?

JM: I used to think it was impossible to catch a carp blind, but they do occasionally get aggressive enough to feel the take.  For the most part, you have to see it.  When in MN each spring Wendy Berrell and I take some time to blind fish for roughfish below the dams, and we catch quite a few carp this way.  We fish with indicators in moving water, just like trout fishing and it does work well, but the real thrill of carp fishing is in seeing the take.

5. How important is fly selection? Is it more valuable than presentation?

JM: After three years of chasing carp almost exclusively, I’m still torn on this question.  As a general rule, presentation is absolutely the key.  As I mentioned earlier, carp are extremely efficient eaters and can turn just about anything in the water into calories.  Because of that, they rarely work for their meals.  There is the occasion where I find big carp that are more active and will chase crayfish flies, but if you want to catch a lot of carp, you need to feed them the fly.  I try to place the fly so that it hits the bottom within 8 inches of their mouth, keeping in mind whether the fish is moving, water depth, etc.  Presentation wins out but as recent as two weeks ago my day was salvaged by a timely pattern change.  Last year Zen Piscator turned me onto the San Juan Worm for carp, and I have had a tough time fishing other patterns since using the worm.  On my last trip the worm worked ok, but the fish didn’t respond well to even the best presentations so I switched to a Rubber Legged Hare’s Ear and ended up landing 12 carp, including a 23 lb female…all but two on the size 12 RLHE.  I guess I’d say stay flexible.  Make sure you are fishing something readily available in your waters, and concentrate on making good presentations before spending too much time changing flies.

6. How important is stealth mode? Are they easily spooked by approaching footsteps or by false casts? Will the splash of the fly spook them?

JM: I’ll waffle on this question as well.  Carp do have better senses then most fish, and once spooked they emit a chemical in the water that keeps their buddies from the area for a little while as well.  Combine this with the fact that they often school together in large shoals and stealth is a necessity.  That said, you can sneak up pretty close to carp in many conditions if you move slowly and watch your footfalls.  I’ve caught twenty pound fish from a rod length away, and I’ve also spotted and stalked big tails from 100 ft away that mysteriously disappeared when I got 1/3 of the way there.  I think it makes sense to watch your profile, wear muted clothing and do what you can to limit the amount of water you push when wading.  False casting over the top of a fish, or lining the fish with a bad cast is the surest way to spook a carp.  There are very few predators for carp in the Columbia river system and my guess is their biggest fear is of a swooping Eagle or Osprey, so I really pay attention to shadows on the water.  One more key to spooky carp is the weight of your fly.  I tie and carry a wide variety of flies in the same pattern, all weighted differently.  You need a fly that gets down quickly so you can cast more directly at the fish, but it if is too heavy and makes a big plop you’ll surely spook the fish. 

7. I’ve often heard that smell and taste are huge factors in carp fishing. How important is sight? Are they wary of leader length? Is fluoro better than mono? 

JM: Carp do feed by smell, taste and vision.  They do a lot of rooting around, sucking up mouthfuls of bottom strata and spitting out the stuff they don’t want.  That is part of the challenge of catching them on a fly.  I read a quote online a few years ago (can’t remember who said it) that applies to carp fishing for me.  “I’d rather fool a fish than feed a fish.”  There are much better ways to catch carp than with an artificial fly, I just think that the artificial is the most fun and rewarding.  If you find feeding carp in shallow water, getting the carp to eat the fly will not be nearly as difficult as you might imagine.  Where their super senses come into play is in how quickly they will eject the fly.  The guys who bait fish for carp a lot talk about how quickly a fish can eject the bait…and that time triples when there is no scent or taste to mask the hook point.  I’ve seen carp suck in a crayfish pattern from a foot away (without moving) and spit it back out in the same motion…so fast that I didn’t even set the hook.  The key to carp fishing is detecting the take, and timing the hook set.  As for leader length, fluoro, mono, etc.  Carp are smart.  When I first started fishing my local pond, I caught the heck out of the fish on everything I threw at them.  Now, I’m down to 5 x tippet, fishing obscure flies and I’m lucky to catch one fish per outing.  It really depends on the situation, but most carp are not pressured enough to be concerned with tippet and leaders.  They learn pretty quickly though.

8. Have you ever thought about quitting your job and becoming a full time carp guide?

JM: Never.  I have a ton of respect for guides…and I simply don’t have the patience most guides do!  I took my dad out for carp, and standing there mentally screaming “Set the hook!” for hours was draining.  He didn’t want me to tell him how to do it, so I had to watch him go through the carp pains I had already been through!  I love fishing, but I’m not cut out to be a guide!

9. I have reason to believe that John Montana is not your real name. What are you trying to hide?

JM: I might be crazy enough to live in OR and ignore the trout, salmon and steelhead available; foolish enough to fish for a trash fish with a cane rod; and deluded enough to take pictures of carp next to a Hardy MK IV Bougle reel…but I’m not stupid enough to do all of that and use my real name!

All photos courtesy of Carp on the Fly.